";s:4:"text";s:3087:" We were working at it, trying to inspire young people to get involved in public life. We are a strong country because of immigrants who have come to this country and now claim America as their land. They all got the hell out of there. I have the discipline to make sure that people are doing their job, and I don’t mind being honest with people. If you don’t have that, then people all run around like chickens with their heads cut off.You cannot have chaos in the White House. If you’re going to do the right thing on the federal budget — trillions of dollars that are involved in the federal budget — and you’re going to try to discipline that budget, then you’ve got to deal with nondefense programs; you’ve got to deal with defense; you’ve got to deal with what are called entitlements, a number of programs that — like Medicare and Social Security and others — that provide benefits to people on an entitlement basis. As OMB director, Panetta helped draft the president’s first budget proposal to Congress. But I also realized that — and by the way, this is a question I often get about when you take over OMB or CIA or Department of Defense. And I said, “Al, I think the operation of the White House is chaotic.”There was very little discipline. 415-291-4412. bliss@ppic.org. The Institute is located at Panetta served on the board of the UC Santa Cruz Foundation, as a Distinguished Scholar to the Chancellor of Panetta has long been an advocate for the world's oceans. One of the things that has given me hope is that he is a veteran.